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Interview of José on May, 14. 2014



You said your hometown is the most happiest town in the world. The most, One of the most?

Huh, it is one of the four most, according to Reader’s Digest


How do they « mesure » this happiness ?

They ask people, how happy are they. They have to say : not happy / kind of happy / happy / very very happy. Most of the people in my town, they say they are very happy.

Do they say what the causes are, why people are happy, what makes them happy?

They mesured some stuff about every city but they maybe didn’t mentioned why they say they are so happy. I think maybe most of the people in my town have a wrong idea of happiness. They all see it from what they have – or if they are in the country club.

Why is it a wrong idea of happiness – if they are happy ?

They attach their happiness to something that may just disappear. They can loose all their money or… they can loose their countryclub, their super sportscar.

So how do you see happiness ? Do you have an idea on this ?

No, not like this. I think that it is not describable. It is like asking what is love. You dont know what it is, but when you are happy i think that you can feel it, or you can know it. There is no way to describe it or to make a way to happiness.

Yes of course… for you personally, how do you know you are happy, or how do you feel it ?

I think when things are so good or even it is not all good, you feel it, it doesn’t matter if things are wrong. Maybe you can realise happiness more in the rainy days when things are wrong and still you feel like « Oh it’s ok, i’m still happy because, i have this person, or i have this friendship, or this relationship… ».

Anyway, this is all about having. I have this something or i have this something. There is no real way to know, how you are gonna be happy. When you get it, you are gonna know.

Maybe this is something that is very much inside. Of course there are the serotonine and other chemicals. But that is something you can work on. Some people find it in the meditation for example. Do you do some meditation or something comparable ?

Yes, every day i do I Liq Chuan. Yeah, i think, it’s very important, and it gives you a lot of well-being. Not only spiritual or emotional, physically you can feel how your whole body feels different after meditation, you feel relaxed, full of energy. It is really good.


And you meet this friend of you, this guy. He is a Shaman, right ?

Yeah, A. .

How did you meet him the first time.

I was going with a friend of mine to the meditation group. It was about Chakras, about Dikshas. With Diksha-givers. We had meditations every Tuesdays. The mother of one of my friends, she knew the Shaman, A.. She took her son (my friend) to meet him. He told me that was amazing. How great it was, that he is a really nice guy, that you get to connect a lot. I got really curious what was it about.

Yes, what is it all about. What does he do when they meet him.

He told me that he reads the tarot, but it is way more than that. It is not only about going there and getting your letters read. It is not that you go there and you have an instant connection, it takes time. The first time i went to see him, i was all nervous.

Did you make an appointement or did you just go with a friend ?

No, you make an appointement. My friend went to meet him, he told him that i want to go. He made an appointement for me. So i went to meet him.

He has this small room with a lot of… i don’t know… he has this part, when you enter it, you feel either very comfortable or very intimidated. And more when you are talking to him. If you are talking to him, he has a very fix eye contact, so it might be for some people very intimidating.

Just move your eyes away and he feels it. He tells you « What’s wrong, where are you heading, why don’t you look me in the eyes ».

After you meet him a few times, it will start to bought in this sort of friendship, or sort of relation. After a few times, he knows you, you can talk with him about what is going on. In the end it takes more time. You can expect his way of living, he needs to get some money out of it. At the beginning he starts charging or making you pay. After getting to know you he stops asking for money. You just go there.

Because he chooses to have the conversation with you in this moment ?

What he told me is : « From now on, i can’t charge you, because my mentors didn’t charge me. » He starts being like a mentor. Of course he charges you if you want to go get your hand read or the tarot. But in the moment that it is a teaching process, that he is teaching you the shaman ways, it is very different.

Educationally speaking, you can’t really charge that. But still he sees a lot of people that just go once or from time to time. Like i told you it grows. Since the beginning you have to get to know him, to get him to know you, and after this feeling of trust, he will start teaching all this knowledge.

When you go back now to Mexico, you will meet him.

Yeah. I met him three or four days before leaving, that was in January twenty-something, this year.

You just came here for a few months.

Yes, five months. When i go back to Mexico i am gonna meet him again, continue the whole teaching and see where it gets to.

How long do you know him now.

For like almost two years, or a year and a half. 






/Carlos César Salvador Arana Castañeda est un anthropologue américain
connu pour ses ouvrages relatant ses expériences prétendument issues de l'enseignement d'un mentor indien Yaqui, don Juan Matus.
Ses livres ont tous été des best-sellers et ont reçu des louanges des critiques littéraires avant les controverses.
La véracité de son récit est, encore aujourd'hui, toujours vivement discutée/